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	<title>Comments on: Before the Gunfire, Cyberattacks &#8211; NYTimes.com</title>
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		<title>By: lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting thoughts. I have not had the chance to do the research you suggest, but would certainly be interested if anyone has that information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting thoughts. I have not had the chance to do the research you suggest, but would certainly be interested if anyone has that information.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting about the conflict with Georgia.  Given the origin and timing of the cyber attack, it&#039;s fairly obvious that the attack was official.  Just so people understand, the Russians were in South Ossetia through a European Union sanctioned mission.  While the news here indicated that the Russians attacked first, the rest of the world knew that it began with aggression by Georgia.  http://tinyurl.com/5mu7u8

That doesn&#039;t excuse anything the Russians did or the Georgians, for that matter. 

Having said that, it would be of real interest to know when the cyber attack took place, when it began.  The Times of London reported on 8/8/2008 that &quot;Tbilisi (Georgia) launched an overnight offensive to regain control over the breakaway province of South Ossetia.&quot;  Times of London.  

That would place the offensive some time on 8/7.  On 8/7 at 17:17, Civil, a Georgian news wire, quoted a South Ossetian official as saying, &quot;Georgia has launched a large-scale military aggression against South Ossetia.&quot;  a at 17:17 on 8/7.

If the cyber attack took place any time prior to 8/7, that might indicate some priori intent by the Russians to go after Georgia, needing only an indicent to provoke such a move.  If it took place after &quot;the overnight offensive&quot; by Georgia, that European media pegs as the start of the war, it might indicate that the cyber attack was in reaction to the ground attack.

If you have this information - the timing of the cyber attack - it would be great to have that or a link.  I&#039;m interested because I wrote about this some time ago.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0809/S00087.htm

Great products - NetShield, etc.  Sorry about the spyware product, although your explanation makes perfect sense.  I hadn&#039;t used it in a while since &quot;Shield Delux&quot; is my main protection but when I did today, it picked up a bunch of nasty stuff that Shield hadn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting about the conflict with Georgia.  Given the origin and timing of the cyber attack, it&#8217;s fairly obvious that the attack was official.  Just so people understand, the Russians were in South Ossetia through a European Union sanctioned mission.  While the news here indicated that the Russians attacked first, the rest of the world knew that it began with aggression by Georgia.  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5mu7u8" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5mu7u8</a></p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t excuse anything the Russians did or the Georgians, for that matter. </p>
<p>Having said that, it would be of real interest to know when the cyber attack took place, when it began.  The Times of London reported on 8/8/2008 that &#8220;Tbilisi (Georgia) launched an overnight offensive to regain control over the breakaway province of South Ossetia.&#8221;  Times of London.  </p>
<p>That would place the offensive some time on 8/7.  On 8/7 at 17:17, Civil, a Georgian news wire, quoted a South Ossetian official as saying, &#8220;Georgia has launched a large-scale military aggression against South Ossetia.&#8221;  a at 17:17 on 8/7.</p>
<p>If the cyber attack took place any time prior to 8/7, that might indicate some priori intent by the Russians to go after Georgia, needing only an indicent to provoke such a move.  If it took place after &#8220;the overnight offensive&#8221; by Georgia, that European media pegs as the start of the war, it might indicate that the cyber attack was in reaction to the ground attack.</p>
<p>If you have this information &#8211; the timing of the cyber attack &#8211; it would be great to have that or a link.  I&#8217;m interested because I wrote about this some time ago.<br />
<a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0809/S00087.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0809/S00087.htm</a></p>
<p>Great products &#8211; NetShield, etc.  Sorry about the spyware product, although your explanation makes perfect sense.  I hadn&#8217;t used it in a while since &#8220;Shield Delux&#8221; is my main protection but when I did today, it picked up a bunch of nasty stuff that Shield hadn&#8217;t.</p>
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