Judge Orders YouTube to Produce Complete Log Files

In a lawsuit by Viacom against YouTube, a judge has ordered that YouTube produce its log files of every video ever watched on YouTube. These logs will contain the user ID and IP address of every viewer. The privacy implications are obviously huge. This information is clearly personally identifying. The judge does not agree with me on this point. Here is the relevant part of the decision:

Defendants argue that the data should not be disclosed because of the users’ privacy concerns, saying that 

“Plaintiffs would likely be able to determine the viewin and video uploading habits of YouTube’s users based on the user’s login ID and the user’s IP address” (Do Decl. ¶ 16).   

But defendants cite no authority barring them from 

disclosing such information in civil discovery proceedings,5 and their privacy concerns are speculative.  Defendants do not refute that the “login ID is an anonymous pseudonym that users create for themselves when they sign up with YouTube” which without more “cannot identify specific individuals” (Pls.’ Reply 44), and Google has elsewhere stated:   

We . . . are strong supporters of the idea that 

data protection laws should apply to any data 

that could identify you.  The reality is though 

that in most cases, an IP address without additional information cannot. 

 

Google Software Engineer Alma Whitten, Are IP addresses personal?, GOOGLE PUBLIC POLICY BLOG (Feb. 22, 2008), http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2008/02/are-ip-addresses-personal.html (Wilkens Decl. Ex. M). 

Therefore, the motion to compel production of all data 

from the Logging database concerning each time a YouTube video has been viewed on the YouTube website or through embedding on a third-party website is granted. 

- Lance Cottrell

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5 Responses to “Judge Orders YouTube to Produce Complete Log Files”

  1. Bahamat Says:

    Contrary to Viacom’s claim that it’s all purely anonymous information, this data can lead back to individual humans if analyzed correctly. Several years ago AOL released its search logs which had been scrubbed from any identifying data and researchers were easily able to trace back to the actual humans who made those searches.

  2. Anonymizer Enthusiast Says:

    Please hyperlink the Google blog. It would also be interesting to hear your opinion on Gmail’s “anonymized” headers and the resulting hypocrisy of Google’s statements regarding the use of an IP to identify an individual. Why does your blog contain a search feature and the Anonymizer web site does not?

  3. BigBro Says:

    What is there to stop the same Judge from ordering Anonymizer to turn over its logs/user lists?

  4. lance Says:

    Nothing can stop such an order. Anonymizer responds by having no activity logs to give. We do have subscriber lists, but no information at all connecting that to web surfing activities. We have no way of knowing who might have visited any given site on any given day.

  5. Marcelino Bohland Says:

    I love youtube but yeah it does have some bad points. Like with copyright and things.

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